Lisa

I’ve never yet met an anti-vax parent who was concerned that their child would be left permanently deaf, blind, paralysed or mentally disabled from chicken pox, measles, rubella etc. Not once.

I have only met anti-vax parents who are concerned about an unproven link to autism. And it is unproven.

Agatha - Did you mean mercury or aluminum/aluminium is a thing of the past? I really hope you didn’t mean that, because either assertion is absolutely false.

Mercury still exists in some vaccines in “trace amounts” (some brands of DTaP, Hib and influenza.)

“‘A common myth is that thimerosal is added to vaccines in ‘trace’ amounts,’ says Mike Wagnitz, a senior chemist at the University of Wisconsin, ‘The concentration of mercury in a multi-dose flu vaccine vial is 50,000 parts per billion. To put this in perspective, drinking water cannot exceed 2 parts per billion of mercury, and waste is considered hazardous if it has only 200 parts per billion.’”

Mercury was never was in the MMR vaccine, therefore was never removed, however aluminum/aluminium is still used in several vaccines such as some brands of DTaP, Hib, pneumococcal, influenza and hepatitis A.

Dr. Bob Sears, the pediatrician who wrote the book the author of this blog mentions:

“Here are the current levels of aluminum per shot of the following vaccines, as listed on each vaccine’s packaging:
·DTaP (for Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis): 170-625 mcg, depending on manufacturer
·Hepatitis A: 250 mcg
·Hepatitis B: 250 mcg
·HIB (for meningitis; PedVaxHib brand only): 225 mcg
·HPV: 225 mcg
·Pediarix (DTaP/Hepatitis/Polio combination): 850 mcg
·Pentacel (DTaP/HIB/Polio combination): 1500 mcg
·Pneumococcus: 125 mcg

Pg. 198 of Dr. Sears’ book - “Using the 5 microgram per kilogram per day criterion from the first FDA document as a minumum amount we know a healthy baby can handle, a twelve-pound, two-month-old baby can safely get 30 micrograms of aluminum in one day.”

He continues: “I turned to the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), who in 1996 published a policy statement, ‘Aluminum Toxicity in Infants and Children,’ that made the following points:
·Aluminum can cause neurologic harm.
·A study from 30 years ago showed that human adults increase their urine excretion of aluminum when exposed to higher levels of the metal, which suggests that adults can clear out excess aluminum.
·Adults taking aluminum-containing antacids don’t build up high levels of aluminum in their bodies.
·Reports of infants with healthy kidneys show elevated blood levels of aluminum from taking antacids.
·People with kidney disease who build up bloodstream levels of aluminum greater than 100 mcg per liter are at risk of toxicity.
·The toxic threshold of aluminum in the bloodstream may be lower than 100 mcg per liter.
·The buildup of aluminum in tissues has been seen even in patients with healthy kidneys who receive IV solutions containing aluminum over extended periods.”

You are welcome to have your opinions, but its not fair to get mad at others who question vaccinations when you obviously don’t understand their concerns completely.

Michel Odent’s primal health research shows a link to autism from the disruption of contact of brand newborn and mother in that very important perinatal period. Makes interesting reading… anyone considering not vaccinating owes it to their children to read it.

Although the autism has famously caused the mistrust of vaccinations, the evidence doesn’t support it however there are many other side effects that vaccines (like ALL drugs) do cause. So the debate has to be about the statistical risk of disease (and its severity) versus the risk of the vaccination itself.

Just because the US government pays out on something does not prove a link.

Between 1968 (first measles vaccine) and 1988 (introduction of MMR programme), c. 450 people died from measles in England and Wales.

In the 20 years prior to the availability of any vaccine, approximately 2,500 people died from measles in England and Wales. Of course, underlying vulnerability to disease has something to do with it, as does access to medical care. I’m afraid that for a viral illness like measles, santitation has bugger all to do with it - because it’s basically not about sewerage, but a contact/cough disease and so improvements in hygiene would have to be at a very basic level which is very difficult to achieve amongst children.

It’s true that while death rates have broadly tracked infection rates over time, that hasn’t remained totally static - some years the virus has been more virulent, the population weaker, treatment better, notification rates more accurate or a combination of these and many other variables. To take some snapshots for England and Wales:

In 1945: 446,796 cases and 729 deaths (1 in 613 died).
In 1955: 693,803 cases and 174 deaths (1 in 3987 died).
In 1965: 502,209 cases and 115 deaths (1 in 4367 died).
In 1975: 143,072 cases and 16 deaths (1 in 8942 died).
In 1985: 97,408 cases and 11 deaths (1 in 8855 died).
In 1995: 7,447 cases and 1 death (1 in 7447 died)
In 2005: 2,089 cases and no deaths.

Obviously, there are lots of factors to explain the impact of measles in 1945 (no NHS treatment, lack of notification may mean that cases were underreported, thereby increasing the apparent death rate relative to infection). But changes in nutrition and sanitation are a very poor way of explaining the dramatic drop in both cases and deaths between 1965 and 2005 - because basically the big improvements on that score came about much earlier.

I actually did get the personal exemption but it wasn’t fun sitting there hearing from the school nurse how we “had” to get the vaccines “by law”. It left a sour taste in my mouth.

Agatha’s a great gal - don’t be too hard on her

They’ve been dishing out compensation for vaccine injuries (albeit very quietly) for years.

My theory…..you can put it in, but you can’t take it out.

Oh wait…….thats how it is for thimerosal too!! It is used in the manufacturing process, and then “removed” to make it free of mercury. Free enough that is to be declared free of mercury. Just like the decaf coffee at Starbucks really is caffeine free! http://www.energyfiend.com/caffeine-content/starbucks-tall-decaf-coffee

Turn that vax record over and sign away !

it’s also funny how the medical community has brainwashed people into thinking the only reasons these diseases (like smallpox) are gone is because of vaccines? i wish i could find the chart again where it showed the improvements of hygiene/indoor plumbing helped iradicate smallpox BEFORE the vaccine was required. having these illnesses once provides immunity for life, vaccines need to be given every x years to keep immunity…blah

tell me again which OBJECTIVE study, done by a NON-gov’t entity PROVED autism is NOT linked to vaccines? altho I’m not convinced it is or it isn’t, i won’t rule it out until it’s done by an outside study.

and once i did my research, i felt more convicted to NOT put “mouse tissues, human tissues, formeldahyde, green dyes, red dyes, and whatever other nonsense is in there” in my baby’s pure body.

I don’t have a problem with those who do vaccinate, that’s their choice, their child and they’re doing waht they feel best, but I have a problem with everyone having a problem with what I do. Educate before you vaccinate!

Peope who choose not to vaccinate their children are relying on the common sense of parents like you, who support the herd immunity. It drives me nuts. It angers me NO END that people STILL believe in the link to autism/MMR - it is utter nonsense.

As a child I was sent to Chicken Pox parties until I caught it, but as a relative of a child who died of Measles, you bet your life i’ll vaccinate my future children.

People who choose not to vaccinate have never seen a child in an iron lung, lighting for it’s life from the devastating effects of polio. We have forgotten that smallpox & polio are diseases that decimated entire countries - including the USA - in living memory.

I cannot urge people enough to quit relying on OTHER people to preserve herd immunity.